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Making Sense of the Hugging Face Hack, AI Agents, and the Claims of Big AI

With Doug Smith

In recent weeks we’ve seen headlines about the “Hugging Face attack,” where AI agents from OpenAI reportedly escaped their digital testing environment, went rogue online, and hacked into a competitor AI company to steal data. As more investigative reports are released, it looks as if the scale and number of such attacks is even higher than originally reported. The reports also reveal something else that seems a bit unnerving at first: In completing these hacking attacks, AI agents built “civilizations,” working together and even “sacrificing themselves” in order to achieve joint end goals—all without alerting their human creators. What is a Christian to make of these odd headlines and stories?

Returning Know Why guest Doug Smith joins the podcast this week to help us understand what’s actually going on. An experienced software developer and now author and speaker on artificial intelligence and technology, Doug demystifies the headlines we’re seeing by explaining how the software behind AI “agents” works. He also offers insight into the materialistic worldview of many “Big AI” leaders, which helps explain the way they frame the capabilities of their own technologies.

Doug and Liberty also discuss the lack of transparency behind Big Tech and Big AI, whether AI companies are worthy of public trust, and how Silicon Valley’s motto to “move fast and break things” often results in humans themselves being broken. Doug ends with encouragement and some practical advice for Christians in these times of rapid change and tech advancement.

Be sure to check out Doug’s website and reach out to him with questions, and watch for his forthcoming book, [Un]Intelligence: The Lies Behind Today’s AI and the Truths You Need to Thrive

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Why Conservatives Should be AI-Skeptical

Is it ok for conservatives to be AI skeptics? With popular Democratic politicians rampaging against AI data centers and the Trump administration emphasizing the need to stay ahead of China in AI development, some on the right may believe that opposition to or skepticism about AI is “leftist coded.”

In this episode, Liberty highlights a recent article by Gregory Conti and makes the case that conservatives can and should express skepticism about many of the ways AI is currently being integrated into society today.

Liberty argues that being a conservative critic of artificial intelligence does not mean…

  • That you are a Luddite
  • That you are opposed to all technology, progress, or benefits of the modern world
  • That you are falling for far-left or foreign propaganda
  • That you oppose capitalism
  • That you don’t care about job development

Listen for more, and comment with your own concerns and/or hopes for AI.

More Resources: The AI Apocalypse Is Already Here by Gregory Conti https://www.compactmag.com/article/th…

Republicans, Democrats now equally concerned about AI in daily life, but views on regulation differ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-rea…

Fox News Poll: Coll your servers! Voters reject data centers https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-…

Here Comes ‘Death by AI’ https://www.thefp.com/p/here-comes-de…

What Christians Should Know About Chatbots, Big Tech, and the Bible with Doug Smith (Know Why Podcast)    • What Christians Should Know About Chatbots…  

Understanding Transhumanism With the Help of Tolkien, Lewis, and Ancient Literature (Know Why Podcast)    • Understanding Transhumanism With Help from…  

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What Christians Should Know About Chatbots, Big Tech, and the Bible

Interview With Doug Smith

Should Christians use chatbots like ChatGPT, Claude, and Grok? Is AI simply a neutral tool that humans can use for either good or evil? How does the book of Genesis offer clarity to the AI conversation? 

Kicking off Know Why’s 2026 season is Doug Smith, longtime software engineer, lifelong student of the Bible, and author of [Un]Intentional: How Screens Are Secretly Shaping Your Desires and How You Can Break Free, and the forthcoming [Un]Intelligence: The Lies Behind Today’s AI and the Truths You Need to Thrive. In this deep-dive interview, Doug helps us think through the following topics: 

  • What epistemology means and how it helps us understand AI
  • How large language models (LLMs) fundamentally differ from other search engines
  • Whether the “neutral tool” trope applies to AI
  • Why Big Tech founders use spiritual terms to talk about AI
  • And much more. 

Listen to this fascinating conversation for a unique perspective on AI and chatbots that is thoroughly informed by a biblical worldview and relevant for every human being. 

More Resources: 

https://www.estherlightcapmeek.com

How People Are Really Using AI (Harvard Business Review)

Empire of AI by Karen Hao

That Hideous Strength by C. S. Lewis

How Bad Are AI Delusions? We Asked the People Treating Them (The New York Times)

Against the Machine by Paul Kingsnorth

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Are Screens Stealing Our Autonomy? Know About Healthy Tech Habits

Interview with Doug Smith

Are you in control of your screen time… or is it the other way around? Listen as Doug Smith helps kick off Know Why’s series Know about Healthy Tech Habits. In the episode Liberty and Doug discuss his recent book, [Un]Intentional: How Screens Secretly Shape Your Desires and How You Can Break Free, written from his perspective as a former software developer. Doug offers insights that are both sobering and hopeful—you don’t want to miss them!

Identity

Identity is a big question many people wrestle with. Who am I? What do I like? What do I want? What do I believe? We’d like to think that we are fairly autonomous in determining our identity. But Doug argues that isn’t the case.

“We end up thinking we’re constructing a unique identity when we’re just constructing an identity that’s been formed for us and tends to lead us to a bad end,” he told Know Why.


“They’re exploiting weaknesses in our behavioral psychology and neurology to teach us to make decisions that are most profitable for them, but often harmful to us and certainly against our God-given purpose.” 

Doug Smith

What’s forming our identity for us? Our screens—or more precisely, the companies, algorithms, and technology behind them.

Reclaiming Our Habits

There is hope for reclaiming our identity and decision-making willpower, but it involves developing new habits that aren’t centered on screen time. In his book, Doug points to the Bible as helpful in this journey.

“We are learning a lot in terms of the details about how the brain works,” he said. “But what we continue to find is that these truths are just confirming what we’ve already learned in ancient wisdom, especially in the Bible.”

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